Please see Part I for acknowledgments.
Hey, so now that I’ve missed the last 100 years or so, what’d I miss?
Anyway, here’s what we’ve got in terms of a final tally:
| Year | PREWAR | Converted PREWAR |
| 1995 | 0.200 | 2.64 |
| 1996 | 0.145 | 0.712 |
| 1997 | -0.18 | -3.8 |
| 1998 | 0.389 | 2.04 |
| 1999 | 0.476 | 2.71 |
| 2000 | 0.213 | 0.957 |
| 2001 | 0.535 | 2.34 |
| 2002 | 0.0221 | 1.55 |
| 2003 | 0.882 | 3.86 |
| 2004 | 0.686 | 3.81 |
| 2005 | 0.077 | 1.80 |
| 2006 | 0.0045 | 0.317 |
| 2007 | 0.178 | 2.71 |
| 2009 | 0.542 | 2.37 |
This will give us our totals:
PREWAR: 4.17
CONVERTED PREWAR: 24.016
Now, before we can go into what this data actually means, we need a couple of notes:
1) The data is slightly skewed because of the years in which the Yankees lost in the first round of the postseason. Just look at how much lower the numbers are for 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007 to get an idea.
2) The Sandy Alomar Jr home run in 1997 kills Mariano’s PREWAR. For comparison’s sake: in 1997, Mariano’s postseason FIP was over 8.6(!) In 2003, his best postseason (and it’s not even close), the number is 1.28.
Okay, so now that we’ve cleared that up, go pour yourself a nice glass of wine as we discuss what the numbers mean.
The raw, unconverted PREWAR figure is 4.17, so let’s do that one first.
The unconverted number says that Mariano is worth over four wins in the postseason–the equivalent of one round, all by his lonesome self–but there’s a caveat here.
The raw numbers here measure a win as having the same value as a win during the regular season–ie, one win in 162 games. In the postseason, one win is worth a lot more. Since Mariano pitches relief innings only, his innings totals in the postseason are thus supressed–he’s never thrown more than 16 innings in a postseason–which in turns suppresses the value for WAR.
Now, the raw PREWAR numbers are useful, but they will be most useful when we can compare them to other postseason relievers–this is the epilogue post that you will see following this one, which, if I can figure out how to make one, will have a nice shiny graph.
Anyway, enough with the digressing.
So what we want to do here, then, is to convert Mariano’s PREWAR numbers to a number that would be representative to what Mariano would be worth if he pitched at the same scale in the regular season.
The conversion has been done in the table above, but just a refresher: to convert the numbers using the Magical Calculator Thingy, you change the input for Innings Pitched to 70, which is roughly what a closer would pitch over a full season (since becoming a full-time closer, Mariano has pitched between 60 and 80 innings per year, so this number actually works very well).
When we total up the CONVERTED PREWAR numbers, we get 24.016.
That would be, then, 24 wins.
Now, let’s go back and remember our very basic assumption, that it takes eleven wins to win a Championship.
Twenty four divided by 11 is, of course, just over two.
This means, adjusted to a regular-season scale, the Yankees have won two of their last five World Series, potentially for no other reason than that Mariano Rivera, and not another closer, was on the mound in the ninth inning.
Every time we go and we think that Rivera is the Hammer of God, something else comes around to show us that he’s even greater…
11 Responses on How Many Championships is Mariano Rivera Worth? Part IV
I have to say, my head hurts. But nice job trying to quantify Rivera’s worth. Always difficult to do with relievers and not sure we have the statistics available to truly do it.
Or maybe Rivera is that much better than everyone else.
I tend to think the latter.
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Rebecca G. Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I can’t say I disagree…
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[Golf clap]
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Rebecca G. Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
You’re doing that just to spite me =P
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Wait till they come Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Hey I’M writng a novel. It’s not like I have it easy.
Speaking of which, I’m procrastinating…
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You know what could also be done here? Take each game individually that he’s pitched, and figure out how much he increased the Yankees chances of winning the WS in that game. A high-leverage save in the ALDS isn’t te same as a high-leverage save in the WS. Too much work, I know. Just a suggestion if you ever have some time on your hands
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Rebecca G. Reply:
November 9th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
I’m unemployed and trying to break into journalism. I got nuttin’ but time =). Have some other ideas on tap first, but this is an idea worth exploring.
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Maybe I missed something…you say earlier in the article when discussing Hairston that Replacement players aren’t the Yankees bench, but rather the Pirates bench (as an example). I don’t disagree with the math, but attributing 2 championships to Mo when those high leverage innings would have been pitched by the next best reliever available (certainly well above replacement level), seems disingenuous.
What if it were compared to the next best reliever on the Yankees for that year? That might give a better indication of his true impact.
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Rebecca G. Reply:
November 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The follow up I have planned is to compare him to other postseason relievers. i’m a little under the weather at the moment, but I hope to get it up by the end of the week.
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The work and effort is really impressive, but I have a little problem with the conclusion that he’s been worth 2 championships. My conflict is two-pronged–one, I don’t think it’s accurate to say that he’s been worth two championships. Andy Pettitte, for example, was worth one more win (33% more) than Mo. Does that mean Pettitte’s worth 3 championships? What about the other guys?
This is supported through a statistical standpoint. Per Fangraphs, he’s averaged 9.2IP in the playoffs and 72.2 in the regular season. That means that Mo pitches ~7.63 more times in the regular season than in the playoffs. That means that Mo’s PREWAR should be extrapolated to the amount of innings, not the amount of games played, which means that 4.17 x 7.63 = 31.83. Now, you state that this has to be divided by 11 wins, but the losses also count especially because you’re using years that are not championship years. Thus, the average of all possible outcomes of a championship year is a 18.67 (rounded up to 19)-game postseason. When you divide 31.83 by 19, you get 1.7 championships. Rounding up in full is impossible since you are giving him more credit than possible, so he is wholly responsible for 1 championship and mostly for a second. This does not account for what Ben Kabak said at RAB, which is that replacement-level closers generally don’t play on postseason teams (think 2007 Joe Borowski v. 2009 Brian Fuentes) and the difference is probably smaller still. In fact, crudely using regular-season WAR, Mo’s was 2.0 when the average playoff closer’s was 1.35. That means that the average playoff closer was 67.5% as valuable as Mo, which, multiplied by the championships Mo is worth, is about 1.13. Thus, the difference between the average playoff closer’s championship worth and Mo’s championship worth is half a championship, which sounds much more accurate.
Sorry to ramble on like this, but your post was, again, very impressive and did a lot to stimulate great discussion.
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Who cares? Mo is awesome, and the greatest closer of all time, bar none. Why do we need so many different stats to back up that fact? Isn’t the saying “stats are for losers”? Mo is a winner through and through. He gets the results. I only expect STATS to come from deluded fools who claim Trevor Hoffman is the best closer of all time. (No disrespect to the Hoff, but the Sandman > Hells Bells.)
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